Re: Oldest SF not necessarily most dated?

On May 16, 4:44=EF=BF=BDpm, David Johnston <da...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:01:58 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >On Fri, 16 May 2008 00:12:07 -0700 (PDT),Mike Stone<mwst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>ItaliansareWogs,
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> >>I think you mean "wops". That, or "Eyties" is the usual one.
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> >>In England, at least, "Wogs" refers mainly to Arabs and South Asians
> >>ie to "coloured" peoples not quite dark-skinned enough to merit the N-
> >>word..
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> >In David Drake's RCN series, his people seem to use the term to
> >describe anybody from foreign planets.
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> "Wogs begin at Calais"


Actually that's a "cleaned-up" version.

As a boy in the 1950s and early '60s, it was "_N---ers_ begin at
Calais". I remember hearing it used c1961 in an episode of the ITV
soap "Emergency Ward 10", though the speaker did clap her hand to her
mouth as she realised she was speaking to an African doctor. She had
been objecting to someone she knew proposing to marry a _Frenchman_.


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