Re: David Gerrold - War with the Cthorr

In article <slrng366hs.n71.wnoise@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Aaron Denney  <wnoise@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On 2008-05-20, Michael Alan Chary <mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> In article <g0svnj$mja$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> William December Starr <wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>I'm not sure _when_ in the sequence you're asking about.  Fred's
>>>mind-state is recorded at time T1.  Fred2 has that data poured into
>>>him and is awakened at time T2.  Are you asking "What makes Fred2 at
>>>T2 the same as Fred was at T1?", or "Are they still the same after
>>>additional experiential time has passed for least one of them?"
>>>
>>>Re the first question:
>>>
>>>If the recording of the mind-state of Original Fred was perfect, and
>>>the pouring of that recorded data into Fred2 was equally perfect,
>>>then either (1) Fred2, when he starts existence, is the same person
>>>as Original Fred was when the recording was made or (2) there's
>>>something of O.F. missing from Fred2, because there was more to
>>>O.F. than just his mind-state.  If (1), they're the same; if (2),
>>>what is it that's missing?
>>
>> Aren't you violating Heisenberg?
>
>Nope.  At most he's violating quantum no-cloning.

Yes, *that* is what was wrong with my objection to his hypothetical 
thought experiment...

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