Re: Oldest SF not necessarily most dated?

Mike Van Pelt wrote:
> In article <g14h0t$h1i$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Tim McDaniel <tmcd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> In article <jk3m24dreg89dpin4ec2pbalqetj0ju5d1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> John Schilling  <schillin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> I don't think anyone, from the early '80s on at least, was
>>> terribly surprised to see the Soviet economy collapse.
>>
>> I think your memory has improved itself. Getting shabbier
>> and less competitive gradually, many thought, but I don't
>> recall anyone projecting *collapse*.
>
> The only example I can think of is some of the historical
> backstory in the (1955 Hugo winner) "The Darfsteller", by
> Walter Miller, IIRC. The historical play within the story,
> "The Anarch", is about the fall of the Soviet Union. (In
> Miller's history, it was not a mostly-peaceful collapse;
> The People were exacting gruesome revenge on the commissars.)

The backstory to RAH's "Gulf" includes a Communist state (whether 
worldwide or US-only I'm not sure) which had fallen eighty-five years 
before, with the execution of the last commissar.